The end of static Learning Objects?
07
June
Are flash based Learning Objects dead? They sure are expensive - since 2001 the Teaching & Learning Federation (TLF) has used “AUD$123 million ….. divided by 6300 curriculum items. That’s close to AUD$20,000 for each single (eg, Flash) TLF curriculum item,” observed Stephen Loosley (Member, Victorian Institute of Teaching) when he opened some excellent discussion on the Oz-teachers email list on the continued relevance of the digital content produced by the TLF. These are some significant Australian dollars at stake. Please leave a comment below on your observations about whether you think this is an effective use of money.

In March, the group put together a document “Sustaining supply of content for the digital education revolution. This paper details the sustainability of the Ministers’ Le@rning Federation initiative beyond 2009 to provide content for the digital education revolution.” In here they put forward a number of options to the government for more funding. These range from $5 million a year, for not very much at all, to over $16 million a year for presumably much of the same.
Let me start with a closed-minded generalisation - to my mind TLF Learning Objects became irrelevant to today’s learners about 2005 - when user-generated and filtered content began to gather more relevance than that of top-down institutions.
“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” — Albert Einstein
My main observations from talking to hundreds of teachers in schools through my work in gov’t/business is that the TLF LOs were/are too hard to access and that it was mostly impossible to assess student’s learning because they did not allow a venue for conversation around the content.
The group was set up in 2001, by all Ed Ministers for, “developing and procuring online curriculum content specifically for Australian and New Zealand curricula, and delivering it for free distribution to schools….. The Initiative has delivered a valuable national asset that will directly support the national curriculum and assessment agenda for decades to come.”
So what do we do with these figures as Stephen Loosley acutely observes - they are worth repeating - “$123 million .. divided by 6300 curriculum items. That’s close to $20,000 for each single (eg, Flash) TLF curriculum item.” How has the learning that has supposedly occurred as a result been quantified and analysed? I’m sorry to the content creators that may be reading this but my general observations is that kids thought they were “lame” - 3 or 4 in a class of 30 usually thought they were engaging and challenging but the rest went “meh!”. Another question needs to be asked - how many of the Flash objects made in 2001 for Adobe Flash 3.2 actually work now and are relevant - have the thousands of conversations that supposedly went on around them captured, or was the use of Flash merely just eye-candy to keep the kids occupied for a few minutes? And if they are for teachers why can’t they embed the LOs directly in our Portal spaces/Edublogs/Moodles/Scholaris/Wikispaces.
In actually modelling access and usage of these LOs in workshops I observed around 50% teachers give up at the search phase as they couldn’t find anything relevant to their needs. Another 30% didn’t know how to unzip the downloaded learning object, let alone distribute this to students. 10% were Mac users and were frustrated when a pop-up told them they had to use Internet Explorer, and around 5% who against protocol installed the whole DVD or CD on their Curriculum server sat school aid they were handy for point of need or for IWB use by the teachers. One astute observer I remember saying the search functionality was “akin to using AltaVista way back in 1995″.
I will give the new Scootle interface a fair go - it is faster at least - keyword search actually works and the UI does look friendlier - yet no info on how to log-in - another walled garden. Not so good if you want kids in Africa to join in your class discussion around content.
Funny - as a Japanese teacher in 2004 my class took part in one of the TLF Learning Object online user surveys of both teacher and students. Ironically, the students were more engaged in the ability to respond via the TLF’s Survey Monkey (yes freeware!) than they were by the actual Learning Objects. But why? ZOMG - the kids had input and and an audience - what could be SO motivating about that (excuse the sarcasm).
In reassessing the TLF role we need to get beyond this ancient idea educational gerontocracy keeps peddling that we must deliver content and fill the empty to receptacles of these kids brains. What we could have done with the $123 million are three things:
- given learners different online and open venues for connecting with each-other via real-world conversations around the expensive content;
- access to their own wireless devices to creatively communicate understanding (well done Rudd via DER - it’s a start - let’s see the kids getting connected to each other though);
- employing teachers that aren’t scared of the kids being better at using the technology than them - this means losing some control over knowledge production that most are comfortable with.
But these strategies are generally seen by the gerontocracy as the words of a heretic! Thankfully some educators on Oz-teahchers are willing to engage in dialogue and work towards a better use of such funding…..
@David Westaway - you said, “at present in Victoria because of licensing issues teachers must access digilearn (inc. TLF content) through a teacher login and copy a student access URL which is only able to be used by students at schools with a VicSmart connection. If I wish to set a DLO as a homework exercise for a pupil, they won’t be able to access it.”
- I just counted 6 hoops to jump through here - Google has 1 - hrmm - I wonder which will win. This will need to change to be useful for Year 9-12 DER recipients.
@ Rob R Costello said “Comparisons might be odious, but I saw a trial of Mathletics the other day. Somehow or other they’ve hit on a model that both kids and teachers instinctively felt would work - don’t know I’ve often had a full class for 73 minutes, without even one year 8 kid getting sidetracked - it has a collaborative mode; allows kids to race against players from around the world”
- Indeed! - who would have thought - kids being engaged by having a stage for their knowledge and a desire to learn collaboratively. TLF 2010 could take a huge leaf out of Matheltics book and apply open, collaborative and Allah forbid slightly competitive game-based learning elements to the content they already have. $5000 to make each LO to work this way and be embeddable elsewhere on top of the $20,000 already spent could actually make these Learning Objects relevant. And why not apply an Australian copyright with a tracking code applied to the embeddable content so that if other educational systems worldwide want to use the LOs they have to pay to use them. Value attached to our Australian curriculum content will only happen when the rest of the world can see it - let alone teachers who have forgotten their log-in. Paradigm shift in the thinking of our gerontocracy anyone? Nah - too hard - just throw more money at tired institutions and hope the same old approach catches up with the web2.0 world expanding through a mantra of sharing and conversation.
So all this leads to a scary use of AUD$123, 000, 000 - it smells of total irrelevance to 21C learning environments and a complete waste of money. Why? One word - s e a r c h - as search becomes more sophisticated, so too is the need students and educators to be critically literate in their information inquiries around knowledge creation. A search for a Learning Object on the topic “Climate Change” produces 6 results using the new Scootle interface to TLF content: and requires a log-in. Pity kids around the world can’t discuss the same content for such a global issue huh? - wheras we could also do a Google “filetype” search by searching for Flash files (Interactive Learning Objects) with the following “filetype:swf Climate Change” and yield “about 3,850 results for filetype:swf Climate Change in 0.04 seconds.
But I’m not the first to observe this. Heck - Stephen Downes said all this back in 2003 (!!!) - on this website ironically another Australian gov’t funded technology delivery system, “The Flexible Learning Network”:
Though much discussion has centered around the nature and use of learning objects, less attention has been paid to the problem of their distribution…… The emphasis in learning object distribution thus far has been toward federated search systems. A federated search system can rigidly control access to search results, requiring authorization before these results are released. This option is preferred by owners of commercial educational content, since even search results are marketable content. A federated search system also promotes branding and, because the number of repositories searched is limited, can be used to reduce competition from wider networks of less expensive or free content.
But though content producers have many reasons for supporting a federated search system, it is not clear that the needs of a global network of online learning repositories will be best served in this way. Much content will by necessity remain outside the network, thus limiting the choices of participants. Moreover, such large systems require considerable overhead, and therefore cannot be supported by providers of inexpensive or free educational content. Though many providers are not ready for the wide-open environment of the peer-to-peer world, they are often willing to surrender some control in order to reach a wider market or to provide lower cost or free content.
I’ll repeat myself for silence to hear it again - why not apply an Australian copyright with a tracking code applied to the embeddable content so that if other educational systems/educators worldwide want to use the LOs they have to pay a small fee to use them. Value attached to our Australian curriculum content will only happen when the rest of the world can see it.
– repost: This was originally a reply to a post on the Oz-teachers email list.
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1. Tony Forster | June 7th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Hi,
My reply to Stephen is on another list but not Ozteachers
Stephen:
What are people’s thoughts regarding The Le@rning Federation?
Rob:
- many activities feel like they hem you in - highly scripted, limited
choices, limited construction
Me:
I think what is missing is the opportunity for learners to be creators of
content, rather than consumers. The great opportunity with computers and the
Internet is for learners to create. You most deeply understand something when
you create a representation in another medium.
Will Wright, creator of Sim City talks of rich possibility spaces. Imagine a
mental landscape of such richness and complexity that the learner can chose a
course where the level of difficulty is optimally matched to their ability.
The two related concepts that come to mind are Vygotsky’s ZPD and Mihály
Csíkszentmihályi’s Flow. Keeping the student in an optimal state of learning
by matching challenge to ability. We get some idea of what a learning object
could be like from Sim City where the learner is free to make choices and
watch the consequences.
At the ICTEV conference, multi-award winning teacher Margaret Meijers spoke of
getting kids to program models or simulations. Topical news items, for example
the disease wiping out Tasmanian devils are discussed, transmission rules are
proposed and students build a simple disease transmission model.
The programming language can be any of the easily used visual languages such
as GameMaker or Scratch or even a spreadsheet. For examples of open source
simulations see http://rupert.id.au/schoolgamemaker/samples3/ Consider these
examples of sims that students could make or the starting point for further
investigations rather than finished products.
Another opportunity for students to create content includes claymation. See
http://etrain08.wetpaint.com/page/Techno+Teams for more ideas of student
created content.
What I would like to see more of in the TLF objects is a larger “possibility
space” including the ability to create content. One way this could have been
achieved is to have made them as open source objects programmed in a language
that learners can easily use.
“The computer is a medium of human expression and if it has not yet had its
Shakespeares, its Michelangelos or its Einsteins, it will. …. We have scarcely
begun to grasp its human and social implications.”
Computer Criticism vs. Technocentric Thinking By Seymour Papert
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2. T Goodwin | June 8th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Using a purely economic aurguement in this discussion is flawed from the start because the real cost of the digital content produced by The Learning Federation is shared by the 3 million plus school children across Australia (using 2007 census data). A $20,000 Learning Object if only ever used only once by one third of this population equates to a one-off cost of less than 2 cents per student. The reality is that the best of these objects will have a much greater rate of use and for some a longer shelf-life.
My experience using TLF Learning Objects has been extremely positive but just like any other educational resource, the teachers must select items that will help their students to achieve the intended learning outcomes. In terms of deployment issues we have overcome our own through a combination of perseverance (making a few mistakes) and professional development; Scootle will make my job all the easier.
3. Kim Flintoff | June 8th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
I tend to concur Paul.
Some years back, I was on a committee that seemed to be chasing little more than arbitrarily endorsing a content creation program. I saw committee members effusing over content that was pretty but to my mind fairly useless.
I have a demo disk here from one of the two groups you mention and it is riddled with pedagogical madness. Not one of the misnamed “learning objects” is geared towards any form of critical enquiry.
Economically its cheap to produce and distribute according to another comment - but then again so is sewerage. A single feed into Bondi Beach and everyone can get a taste for free.
I’ve been suspicious of “learning objects” for a while - I’ve commented in the past on eChalk about the reasons why.
While I was teaching in schools there was little in any of these for the performing arts so I tended to let the issue slide a bit, but it is refreshing to see someone else is also willing to cry foul.
4. Patricia Corby | June 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am
What the TLF produce in terms of Learning Objects and Digital Resources are excellent. I depend on them for my online teaching and also for F2F when sourcing authentic resources.
The digital resources are gathered from a wide range of national and state museums, art galleries, CSIRO, etc etc meaning that any student anywhere can access these digitally and rurality or other factors restricting access need not apply.
I believe the money spent is definitely worth it. As said above though, teachers need to become very familiar with the resources they use so that they are an integral and important part of a teaching and learning sequence and are chosen to meet the needs of the students concerned. Sure some objects may not be as useful or encouraging of thinking as others but to me these are in the minority and don’t have to be used. I find what suits my student and works for me. I have downloaded all catologues as often ones filed in one area can be used in others - for example, some on surveying are under Mathematics but are equally suited to modeling how to survey and use data in subjects such as society and History etc.
The TLF also calls on teachers to join focus groups and to contribute time and expertise to advising on educational content and usage in classrooms so that their materials are targeted to what is needed and well used. As teachers we have real input and should take every opportunity to offer this and to use the excellent resources available. If you haven’t been involved maybe you haven’t accepted the offer to be so? I have, and have found it mutually beneficial.
All their studies etc are available online and worth reading, have you checked these out. Names such as Peter Freebody appear and what is undertaken is open and visible to all.
I cannot speak highly enough of the TLF resources and I would urge others to utilise the resources and support their work if not already doing so.
Patricia Corby
Tasmanian Online Network
c/- Geilston Bay High School
271 East Derwent Highway
Geilston Bay TAS 7015
Ph 03 62438633 fax 03 62439259
5. Robin Petterd | June 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
As someone who produces these types of learning objects, I really think the whole model has had it’s time. I think that most of the interactive design models used in them are out of date and yes students see them as lame. It’s crazy to be locking material up behind passwords.
They are the middle of road option.
What we need to think about is user generated content and if there is a place for the sort so “content production” it should in the production of game system and simulations.
6. Tim Hand | June 10th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
Always enjoy a revisit of the LO debate-thanks Paul. Teachers do have trouble unzipping, access may be limited to the TLF objects (depending on jurisdictions licensing/discovery & access points). But to reduce the benefits to $$ is to be a little simplistic (intentionally so Paul?). The TLF objects were conceived at the height of LO fever around turn of the century. But lets remember that they (like all good LOs) are intended to be contextualised in specific learning environments (such as HTML pages, LMSs etc). Collaborative engagement can be added in a number of ways- social constructivism is indeed the missing element- easily achieved F2F or thru online channels. I manage a portal in NSW DET(TaLe) which provides access to the TLF objects (along with other providers)- and from all indicators (log stats/feedback) they (TLF) are extremely popular. The TLF project has also realised many other benefits in terms of online professional development, standards conformance and associated systems interoperability. So from the perspective of some of us inhabiting the blogosphere & all things groovy- they might be a dinosaur in terms of emerging connectivist practice- but for many teachers (and kids) the offerings are focused, engaging and highly relevant to specific syllabus outcomes.
7. Tomaz Lasic | June 10th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
For my 20c (we have a long way to $123 mil
I can see Paul’s argument that TLF objects are often used as (very expensive) digital busy work and/or ‘eye candy’ with the effect of a deadening worksheet when the kids say ‘neh, this is boring sir’ …
However, they can be very useful in explaining concepts in a way a book just can’t match or a teacher couldn’t using other, more ‘traditional’ (whatever that means…
ways. They often come in series and increase in difficulty and/or use the same approach to cut across similar concepts.
The major benefit of that is giving kids a choice in what is it that they want to complete, without a teacher nagging from the front (and kids don’t mind the choice + completing something that they feel fairly competent in completing).
A handful of teachers around here (including myself) use them more as ’stimulators’ for other tasks and, if used judiciously, they can have pretty good outcomes (to use the edu parlance
They are certainly light on content and not something to build a term’s work around
On the technical side, myself and a few other teachers regularly unzip the little buggers (TLF objects, not students
into our Moodle with no problem. The other main problem seems to be finding the right TLF in the big pile. Using a bit of common sense search it should not really take that long to pull something useful for a class or two (probably no longer than designing a worksheet?).
While the objects may not be right up the alley of a particular unit of work, they can often be close or similar and exposing the kids to a bit of lateral stuff that is close to what they do in class can actually do the trick. But the biggest problem in using TLF objects (at least at Belmont where I teach) is that teachers have no idea these LO exis. That is usually THE battle in using them.
Peter (Spicer Wensley) is on the money about sharing and promoting them more widely, they are not exactly money down the drain. Just because they are not ‘web2.+’ and yes, they are pretty static, let’s not throw the baby out of the water and all.
You can always add the ‘web2.+ touch’ by eg. getting the kids to eg. post screenshots of their highest scores or solutions (if the LO has them) in a forum (Moodle or other) and have a ‘tips and tricks’ thread going at the same time. I did that with my “lion-taming” Y8 last year and it worked an absolute treat.
It really comes down to ‘it’s not the technology, it’s what you do with it’.
Pozdrav (that’s a salute, not a swear word where I come from) & keep up the good work.
8. David Hillard | June 12th, 2008 at 10:13 am
I think that the learning objects are another tool that we utilise as teachers to make learning engaging and relevant for students. The challenge as mentioned by others is to help teachers integrate these learning objects into the curriculum so they are not seen as ’stand alone’ activities. There is a wealth of material available which becomes vital for students unable to access conventional excursions due to locality or budget restraints.
Maybe it is time to look at access issues and how this is opened up. All in all though, they are a great tool and I can only say great things about the way I have been able to utilise them in my Year 6/7 classroom.
9. Michael Pate | June 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Digital Learning Objects are reusable technology-based resources that aim to equip teachers with tools to improve the quality of teacher learning. The Learning Federation is one Australian-based provider of Digital Learning Objects. A study by Freebody (2007) has examined the usefulness of these and has found significant positive effects of the use of learning objects in teaching and learning.
The high quality of design and ease of use for both students and teachers makes LO’s an essential element of the 21st century classroom.
Teachers need to believe that Technology is useful to them in the classroom or they are not going to use it. LO’s provide a useful and practical way of integrating ICT and authentic learning into the crowded curriculum. A recent article in The Age, Are PCs for stopping blackboredom?, examplifies these peceptions of the lack of usefulness of Technology. Unfortunately, studies have shown that many teachers do use technology to support their traditional teacher-centred approach, which does reduce the effectiveness of technology (Rakes, 2006, Wozney, 2006, Aust, 2005). The introduction of LO allows teachers to feel comfortable when working with technology. It could be argued that this is a cycle of belief: teachers tenatively use technology to support traditional methods, find it unsuccessful, are unmotivated to take risks and try new techniques and so use technology in traditional ways, which again leads to student disengagement.
One method that can be used to engage teachers is to ensure that technology (eg LO’s) is introduced in a curriculum and content-specific focus (Dexter, 2006, Wozney, 2006). This focus ensures that teachers immediately see the useful, practical applications of technology in their specific circumstances. This approach can be used in combination with a number of initiatives. These include Killer Applications, correctly targetted Professional Development, Digital Learning Objects and peer support.
When I conduct a Professional Learning Seminar for teacher, I present a variety of LO that support the varied curriculum offered in a school. Teachers become engaged with this type of content as they see the benefits for teaching and learning.
10. Karen Mutton | June 13th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I will admit that there is a great deal of variety within the learning objects. Some are fantastic and engaging and some leave a lot to be desired. Many students become frustrated that they are unable to save where they are up to with more complex objects, so they have to restart everytime they log onto it. Teachers finding what they need, relevant to the curriculum has been a problem - scootle has helped with that (and we simply place the saved search into the students logon with the password embedded). Unfortunately not all teachers in my school are able to use scootle yet and this is a problem for us. Those learning objects that we have used have been well received by the students.
The existence of learning objects does not stop students also creating content - some of the objects are good models for students to use.
Our school has started to make good use of the most recent work done by the Larning Federation, we think it is really fantastic - the digital resources - images of maps, art work etc is really useful for us. As an outer suburbs school the cost of taking students on excursions to art galleries and museums is prohibitive - the collection of digital resources does not replace these excursions but they are a fantastic add on. We have used them extensively this year
11. Ken Allan | June 13th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Kia Ora Paul
It seems a pity that learning objects seem to be always tarred with the same brush, especially since the curriculum is so broad. Not all disciplines favour learning objects and there are some good reasons for this. But the disciplines that they are useful for seem to get short changed in all this.
I create learning objects for the sciences at years 10 to 13. I use them for specific pedagogical jobs and they are fine. Used appropriately kids enjoy them. I would never consider preparing a whole course or even a module entirely of learning objects. That’s madness. Yet this seems to be a favourite criticism of their use.
I bring to mind Death by Chocolate when I listen to these types of arguments. A poor chef includes chocolate as an ingredient in every dish but it is a shortsighted one who excludes its use altogether. If the only recipe available that includes it is a mediocre one then chocolate should be off the menu. A good chef chooses recipes wisely.
There are also topics that are particularly difficult to teach and learning objects provide a learning niche, such as polarimetry in year 13 Chemistry.
If I may use another metaphor here, learning objects are extremely useful as darts to hit specific target areas that student find difficulty with or when they need repetitive practice in a specific skill. If they are well catalogued under appropriate nomenclature they are easy to find.
Ka kite
from Middle-earth
12. Julie Squires | June 27th, 2008 at 6:04 am
I love the TLF learning objects but cannot get teachers to use or even look at them!!! I wonder if the type of computer access they require is not what’s available in most schools? What I mean by that is that the learning objects lend themselves to flexible learning spaces where students can use them as required to enhance a learning point before moving on to a related task elsewhere. I’m not sure. The reality is that many teachers are still not really incorporating technology effectively. It is still a separate entity rather than an interconnected part of a learning process. Another problem has been the access issue…will be interesting to see if scootle makes a difference!
I’m in danger of ranting here…In short, I’m not ready to give up on learning objects yet!
13. Paul Reid | August 23rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
If everyone’s Math is correct the Teaching & Learning Federation pays $20k for jpeg pictures Learning Objects! eg these ones shown here http://www.thelearningfederation.edu.au/for_teachers/whats_new/whats_new.html - $20k is a tad extortionate for a picture! It wasn’t until later I realised that even the TLF jpegs are counted in their 6000 odd Learning Objects that have cost $123 million. Notably these images aren’t even editable by students. Absurd when you can do waht you like with these Creative Commons images of Tutankhamen. http://flickrcc.bluemountains.net/index.php?terms=Tutankhamen&edit=yes&page=1
I am not giving up on learning objects I am only calling on a reanalysis of how and why they are constructed and delivered. They need to move from static to dynamic in form.
Assuming the jpegs didn’t cost $20k each, this makes those flash-based LOs even more expensive - I am surprised so many educators are happy to endorse these from a pedagogical point of view - yes there are some good ones but many the legacy items are mostly busy-time babysitters. Let’s take a stab in the dark at $80k each??
Surely we’d be better to embrace open educational content and an ethos of sharing given that instead a student/teacher can go to FlickrCC or any of these free image databases below and do a similar search and find images like:
http://flickrcc.bluemountains.net/index.php?terms=Tutankhamen&edit=yes&page=1
These are not bound by the TLF conditions of use and thus can be used for grip, fix, and turn based learning by students:
The Content, or any part of it, may not be:
* sold or used for any other commercial purpose;
* used or sold for non-educational purposes;
* distributed to the public (including via the Internet); or
* modified or adapted.
I’ve collated these modifiable and adaptable image resources on the web:
Source: http://paulreid.id.au/blog/resources/publicdomain/
NEW* - flickrCC
http://flickrcc.bluemountains.net/index.php
easy way to search for CC images on Flickr
Burning Well
Open-source images
http://www.burningwell.org/
BurningWell is a repository for public domain (free for any use) images. You are free to download, copy and use the photos you find here for any purpose.
Find Media | Creative Commons
http://search.creativecommons.org/
The Creative Commons search engine will help you find photos, music, text, books, educational material, and more that is free to share or build upon.
Morgue File
http://morguefile.com/
The term “morgue file” is popular in the newspaper business to describe the file that holds past issues flats. These are for use of reference. This morgue file contains free high resolution digital stock photography for either corporate or public use.
OurMedia
http://ourmedia.org/images
A free resource for finding legal, images
imageafter.com
http://www.imageafter.com/images.php
In the imageafter.com ‘image’ directory you can expect free high resolution images of objects, places, animals, mechanics, insects, signs, circuits and plants etc.
Picture Australia
http://www.pictureaustralia.org
Search Australia’s major historical picture collections. View what individual Australians are adding to the collection.
Classroom clipart
http://classroomclipart.com/
Wide selection, organised in categories. Includes animations and keyword search.
Clip4Kids
http://www.clipart4kids.com/clipart/main.php
Choose from the galleries or use Advanced Search.
Black & white clipart
http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/index.htm
Black and white clipart of mammals, birds, insects and fish.
Pics4learning
http://www.pics4learning.com/
A selection of colour and black and white images. Wide selection of categories. Includes animations.
http://gallery.schoolcenter.com/
Topically, thankfully there are government funded agencies willing to embrace the participatory web with a flexible rather than accountability attitude. One excellent use of web 2.0 technology is the ABC’s QANDA. For example, I was impressed that this kids opinion got through and was played live as part of the conversation last night:
http://affiliate.kickapps.com/kickapps/_Education-Devolution/video/225782/30560.html
As a government affiliate perhaps the TLF, if approved, could borrow some code to allow similar embeddable content of their future work.
14. Patricia Corby | August 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Phew, what a terrific wealth of useful info here! Thanks Paul.
In reference to this comment “They need to move from static to dynamic in form” as an overall comment it is relevant but being fair some are not static particularly those developed in more recent time, it really is important that people explore fully and use what will work for their students. I am still very satisfied with the objects I use and my students’ responses.
I am starting to explore the links you refer to here which aren’t known to me so I can better appreciate them. One issue I do have with site links is reliability whereas the LOs avaiable to me locally don’t cause me that problem.
I do notice that a lot of your links don’t offer interactivity whereas many LOs provide for me situations for students to explore which aren’t possible for me to do within a classroom e.g running a cafe, allotting jobs and getting feedback as to the success of their appointments etc. The LOs which offer this type of learning experience I find invaluable.
Good to have all this input!
15. Thomas Goodwin | August 23rd, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Paul Reid has pointed educators in the right direction (create and collaborate) however he started from an incorrect premise; The Learning Federation’s Digital Resources are completely different from the Learning objects that are being discussed in this blog. The Digital resources in the Learning Federation’s collection include jpeg photographs, audio clips and video that can be used as stimulus material within units of work. The Learning objects are interactive Flash or Java applets that present specific content or concepts in a way that hopefully encourages or improves student engagement. Again, $20,000 per Learning object sounds expensive but they are reusable and the cost can be shared over many years of usefulness to educators who don’t have to pay huge sums (or become Software developers) to give their students access to high quality interactive digital materials.
16. Kristy Dickson | September 12th, 2008 at 11:22 am
I agree with Paul, $20 000, $80 000, or whatever they cost, kids are losing interest. I think they have their place for a bit of drill and practice occasionally, but I wouldn’t pay for them. Motivation and purpose? More motivation than a worksheet maybe… but my kids can’t see the purpose. They want to interact, connect and publish. It’s time to move on!
17. Cathy Nash | October 2nd, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Learning Objects are one of the tools in a good teacher’s toolbox. It is simplistic to lay them aside as past it. A poor teacher can make a pencil look dull and a great teacher may just achieve great things with one. (for fear of taking the simple picture again). I love Learning Objects and use them extensively, yet judiciously. It is the pedagogy wrapped around them that creates the learning - as it was designed to be.
I don’t find them limiting at all, as I don’t limit myself to this one only resource. As for searching, downloading using - never had any difficulties, maybe other juristicions have less support. The TLF catalogues are worth printing and leaving on a staffroom table to generate interest in the teachers who are struggling to move beyond PowerPoint, word processing and busy work games. …. And then mentor the pedagogy!!!
18. Andrew Westerman | October 3rd, 2008 at 10:28 am
Each LO costs $20 000. So, if 20 students use that learning object for 0.1 of an hour (6 minutes), that’s 2 student / hours @ $10 000 per hour.
If 2000 students use that LO for 0.2 of an hour (12 minutes), that’s 400 student hours @ $50 per hour, which is approximately the same as a teacher. For a teacher to give individual instruction to each child for the same length of time would take 20 x 12 minutes = 240 minutes or 4 hours = $200. So, that’s only 2000 students across Australia for a short learning episode of 12 minutes and already we have an economic argument.
Ed: Please note some personal elements of this comment were removed as they were not deemed appropriate for this forum.
19. Julie Carney | October 3rd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Thanks for this post, and for posters like Paul who have linked and commented on resources for educators to use. As is the case with most things, it seems the right combination of educator/program/developer can create magic in learning.
Thanks!
Julie